Who prepares the General Power of Attorney or Special Power of Attorney?

Preparing the Power of Attorney for India

Time and time again, clients sending a power of attorney to India have asked us to help them prepare a General Power of Attorney or a Special Power of Attorney - or even in some cases, a Special General Power of Attorney. Whether these documents are the same, similar or completely different depends largely on their purposes and the person or organisation intending to use it or rely on it.


This website contains a number of templates that our clients have used in the past, however they are by no means the limit of what is available or any indication of what you should be using when sending the power of attorney to India.

Visit the following previous posts for Power of Attorney templates:


If you have a lawyer in India, you should ask that lawyer to prepare the power of attorney that would be relevant and appropriate to your requirements in India. They may send you the hard copy, which may have been printed on stamped paper or the 'green' foolscap folio sized paper (both of which are not readily available in Australia), or they can send you an electronic file for you to print keeping in mind that if you print your document in Australia, it would likely be on normal white A4 paper. In our experience, the kind of paper has not affected the validity or acceptance of the power of attorney in India (although unstamped documents may need to be subsequently stamped before they can be used in India).

Our role in this process is strictly limited to witnessing the power of attorney being signed, and then notarising the power of attorney. If required so that the power of attorney can be used in India, we can lodge your power of attorney with Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for authentication or apostille. You may also need to make arrangements for your document to be lodged at the Indian consulate in your closest capital city.

Edit 2017 (see updated video)

To obtain a quote on our notary public services for India, please visit https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/notary-fees/.

Get quote to notarise Indian documents

Acknowledgements

This blog is supported and maintained by . Phang Legal is a leading provider of notary public services in Sydney. With offices conveniently located in Parramatta, Phang Legal supports and services the Indian community across Sydney with readily available and easily accessible notary public services at highly competitive rates.

For more information regarding notary public services for documents going to India, view our notary publications at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/jurisdiction/india-notary/.

Frequently asked questions regarding our notary public services can also be found at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/faqs/.

For Hindi to English translation services by NAATI accredited translators, see https://hindi-naati-translation.blogspot.com.au/.

Ern Phang
Notary Public

Ern Phang is the solicitor director of Phang Legal and a notary public. Ern regularly writes about his experiences as a notary public, including the kinds of problems and solutions that his clients face when sending documents to India.

IMPORTANT: the information in this article is correct at the time of publication, however the law constantly changes. This means you should always refer to the most recent articles because we try to update this blog on a regular basis with the most current information.

Recent issues with the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process

WARNING: from January 2015, VFS has changed its requirements and will no longer accept documents that have been authenticated. Documents must now be stamped with an APOSTILLE from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Problems with your driving authority in India

Over the years, we've helped many clients who need to go through the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process to convert their Indian Drivers Licence into an Australian drivers licence.

The majority of these kinds of cases involve clients (ie, licence holders) who have different names on their Indian Drivers Licence and their Indian Passport. Common differences include initials or abbreviations instead of full names, spelling mistakes or leaving out names completely. Whatever the case may be, it seems that the various driving authorities in India use a different naming convention to what's normally accepted in Australia. Unfortunately, this cases a problem for clients when they want to convert their Indian Drivers Licence to an Australian drivers licence.



Why would you convert your Indian Drivers Licence rather than apply for a new Australian drivers licence?

Converting an Indian Drivers Licence to an Australian drivers licence is not the same as just applying for a new Australian drivers licence. Although it might seem to be more simple, just applying for a new Australian drivers licence means clients need to start 'at the bottom'. They're issued with a learners permit and must pass through all the probationary licence requirements before they receive their full licence. On the other hand, converting an Indian Drivers Licence to an Australian drivers licence generally means that with sufficient driving history in India, they can convert to a full licence once they've passed their knowledge test and practical driving test. Converting an Indian Drivers Licence to an Australian drivers licence rather than applying for a new Australian drivers licence is naturally the more attractive option because it shortens and avoids a process that can take years and include a number of limitations and restrictions as well as impose additional obligations and requirements along the way.

How do you verify your Indian Drivers Licence in Australia?

In Australia, VFS provides consular services to Indian citizens on behalf of the Indian Consulate. Part of their services include assisting Indian citizens with the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process by verifying Indian Drivers Licences with the relevant driving authorities in India. However, if there's a difference in the name that appears on the Indian Drivers Licence and the name that appears on the Indian Passport, the verification process to confirm that the licence holder and the passport holder are the one and the same person must be completed by a public notary (or by an Indian Court and a public notary in India if it's done in India).

What does a notary public do with your Indian Drivers Licence and your Indian passport?

As a leading provider of notary public services in Sydney, one of our many roles is to assist clients with verifying that they're the one and the same person referred to in their Indian Drivers Licence and their Indian Passport. This is necessary when the name appearing in each document is different. If you need assistance with this, then we can provide you with a notary certificate that confirms you have presented yourself before us, you have provided us with your Indian Drivers Licence and your Indian Passport, that we've confirmed that you're the one and the same person as the person referred to in those documents and that we've attached certified true copies of those documents to our notary certificate. We can also assist you with submitting the notary certificate to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), which is the second step required by VFS, or return the notary certificate to you so that you can arrange for your own authentication with DFAT. Our flexible service offering ensures that we provide you with a service to meet your availability and your budget.

What stops us from being able to help you with your Indian Drivers Licence Verification?

While we try to help everyone, there are some issues arising from the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process that we can't help with. Here are just a few examples:
  • If your photograph on your Indian Passport or Indian Drivers Licence is unclear (or does not look like you) we're not able to provide you with a notary certificate to verify that you're the one and the same person. One of the key identifiers that we use to verify that you're the one and the same person is your photograph. A few times we've had clients whose photograph on their Indian Drivers Licence has become faded over the years through friction or general wear. Unfortunately, in those situations, we've been able to see the face and therefore unable to verify that they're the one and the same person. You'll probably need to ask your driving authority in India, or VFS (if it relates to your passport) to reissue the new document with a clear photograph.
  • If your date of birth on your Indian Passport or Indian Drivers Licence is different. Another key identifiers that we use to verify that you're the one and the same person is your date of birth. If you have different birth dates, we're unable to assist you - even if your father's name and mother's name are the same which could be easily explained as if you're siblings there's nothing to confirm that you're the one and the same person. Further while naming conventions is an easy way to explain differences in names, differences in birth dates is not. If you're faced with this issue, you'll probably need to speak to your driving authority in India to determine what they can do to help you correct this issue.
  • If your father's name (or parent's name) on your Indian Passport or Indian Drivers Licence is different. Unless any of the documents have your father's photograph and your father also attends our office, we wouldn't normally provide any kind of verification in relation to who your father is or the spelling of their name. Generally, your father's name on a passport or drivers licence is not sufficient proof of who your parents are in Australia (ie, Australia generally relies on a birth certificate as proof of parentage). Further, as far as we're aware, the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process predominantly focuses on the differences between your name (ie, the licence holder) rather than differences in your father's name. If you still wish to make your own declaration as to who your father was and the spelling of his name, it's something we can help you with but not normally part of the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process.
  • If you're not able to attend our office, we're not able to assist you with the Indian Drivers Licence Verification process. One of our key requirements in being able to verify your identity is that you must physically visit our office in person. You can't send a representative and you can't just do it over the internet. While we're aware that may limit the number of people we're able to assist, we're strict on the requirement because it's a part of our purpose and function that we're able to verify you and confirm that you're the one and the same person. DFAT relies on us to satisfy our role properly and accordingly, there are no exceptions to this requirement.
  • If you don't have your original Indian Passport or your original Indian Drivers Licence, we're still able to provide you with a notary certificate - however that certificate will clearly state that we've not been able to verify you against your original documents. Let's say this is more of a hypothetical situation because even though we've encountered this problem with clients, we've warned them against it because it's not part of what we've done normally - and anything outside of what's normal is full of uncertainty even though the cost is the same. Accordingly, more often than not if any original document is not available, you need to find it and bring it, or if its lost or destroyed, get a new one.
  • If the driving authority in India issued you with a confirmation letter in a name which is different from the name in your Indian Drivers Licence, VFS may reject your application and there's very little that we could do to assist you. In this situation, your problem exists with your driving authority in India and the solutions that you need to consider are to have the confirmation letter reissued, or have your Indian Drivers Licence updated to show the same name that appears in the confirmation letter. We realise that this is becoming an increasing issue as driving authorities in India have started to upgrade their systems to correct the naming convention that gives rise to these problems in the first place. Unfortunately, if they upgrade their systems without re-issuing the Indian Drivers Licence, then the Indian Drivers Licences which have already been issued may have not been valid for the process outlined by VFS - which requires the names to be identical. Recently, and more and more frequently, we've noticed that the driving authorities in India have started to update their systems to reflect the complete and proper legal names for licence holders. It's likely that this is going to become an increasing problem, so just be aware of it.

While these are just some of the common and increasingly common problems that we've been seeing with the current Indian Drivers Licence Verification process, it may mean that eventually the local process between the driving authority in Australia (and the various states) as well as VFS and the driving authorities in India may need to be reviewed by one or more of those authorities to determine whether the current process still fits.

The obvious problems are that there will be times when one authorities will change its processes or requirements without the other authorities being aware of the change (similar to what's happening now with the driving authorities in India updating their records) resulting in applications being rejected by the other authorities. The unfortunate result is that the applicant suffers the cost and inconvenience of this extended bureaucratic red tape.

At the end of the day, we will still help where we can.

To obtain a quote on our notary public services for India, please visit https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/notary-fees/.

Get quote to notarise Indian documents

Acknowledgements

This blog is supported and maintained by . Phang Legal is a leading provider of notary public services in Sydney. With offices conveniently located in Parramatta, Phang Legal supports and services the Indian community across Sydney with readily available and easily accessible notary public services at highly competitive rates.

For more information regarding notary public services for documents going to India, view our notary publications at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/jurisdiction/india-notary/.

Frequently asked questions regarding our notary public services can also be found at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/faqs/.

For Hindi to English translation services by NAATI accredited translators, see https://hindi-naati-translation.blogspot.com.au/.

Ern Phang
Notary Public

Ern Phang is the solicitor director of Phang Legal and a notary public. Ern regularly writes about his experiences as a notary public, including the kinds of problems and solutions that his clients face when sending documents to India.

IMPORTANT: the information in this article is correct at the time of publication, however the law constantly changes. This means you should always refer to the most recent articles because we try to update this blog on a regular basis with the most current information.

General Power of Attorney - Sending your notarised document to India

After notarisation

As much as most enquiries that we receive focus on how a general power of attorney for India must be notarised, unfortunately many times clients do not take the appropriate care when returning the general power of attorney to India - and the result is the document is lost!

The general power of attorney on behalf of someone living in Australia but used in India requires that power of attorney to be notarised by a notary public. That is what we do. We provide low cost fixed fee notary public services to ensure that any document that is going to be used in India will be recognised in India by other parties, banks, government departments or the courts.

In fact, many clients focus on this aspect asking whether the general power of attorney needs to be notarised, whether it should be printed on bonded paper, whether it requires 2 witnesses, or whether it needs to be counter signed by the Indian Consulate.

If it needs to be counter signed by the Indian Consulate, then the general power of attorney must be submitted to VFS which provides consular services to Indian nationals on behalf of the Indian Consulate. One of the requirements specified by VFS is that the general power of attorney must be stamped with an apostille before it can be submitted to VFS for processing.

In Australia, the apostille can only be issued by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), and DFAT will only issue an apostille on the general power of attorney if it has been notarised by a notary public. Fortunately, we assist many clients around Parramatta and across all of Sydney with notarising their general power of attorney for India.

Edit 2017 (see updated video)

To obtain a quote on our notary public services for India, please visit https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/notary-fees/.

Get quote to notarise Indian documents

Acknowledgements

This blog is supported and maintained by . Phang Legal is a leading provider of notary public services in Sydney. With offices conveniently located in Parramatta, Phang Legal supports and services the Indian community across Sydney with readily available and easily accessible notary public services at highly competitive rates.

For more information regarding notary public services for documents going to India, view our notary publications at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/jurisdiction/india-notary/.

Frequently asked questions regarding our notary public services can also be found at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/faqs/.

For Hindi to English translation services by NAATI accredited translators, see https://hindi-naati-translation.blogspot.com.au/.

Ern Phang
Notary Public

Ern Phang is the solicitor director of Phang Legal and a notary public. Ern regularly writes about his experiences as a notary public, including the kinds of problems and solutions that his clients face when sending documents to India.

IMPORTANT: the information in this article is correct at the time of publication, however the law constantly changes. This means you should always refer to the most recent articles because we try to update this blog on a regular basis with the most current information.

Indian Drivers Licence Verification in New South Wales

WARNING: from January 2015, VFS has changed its requirements and will no longer accept documents that have been authenticated. Documents must now be stamped with an APOSTILLE from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Is your name different on your Indian Drivers Licence and your Indian Passport?

Have you noticed that (normal) things that happen overseas often don't make sense in Australia?

Take names for example. In our experience, it's quite common for names to be written differently or even spelt differently in other countries depending on their language (or languages) and naming conventions. Non-English names when 'translated' into English especially when translated phonetically can be spelt differently or rearranged differently.

However, unlike in other countries which have some sort of compulsory national identifying number, in Australia most people identify by their full legal name, their date of birth and their residential address. Therefore, ensuring that each detail in your name, including spelling must match exactly is extremely important. Any inconsistencies generally need to be explained, rectified or otherwise cause all kinds of problems - especially when it comes to legal or financial matters. In Australia, if your name is different, then you are a different person.

Over the years, we've helped many clients who have to deal with this issue, especially when it comes to their Indian Drivers Licence. It appears Indian authorities implement their own naming conventions when recording names on the driving licence. Since those naming conventions differ from Australia, whenever these clients attempt to 'convert' their licence, they face a number of problems.

  1. They need to prove that they have a drivers licence from another country and that they have driving experience.
  2. They need to show that they are the one and the same person as the person who had that licence and that driving experience.

In cases where their name on their passport, being their primary form of identification in Australia, and the name on their Indian Drivers Licence is the same (especially where the Indian driving authority is recognised by the Australian driving authority), then the process is quite simple. In cases where the name appearing on their passport and their Indian Drivers Licence is different, then that's where we get involved.

Clients faced with this situation have 2 options. One option involves obtaining some form of proof from a court in India, which in most cases is extremely inconvenient and relatively expensive, and the other option involved evidence provided by a notary public - that's what we do.

We help our clients by verifying their identity, but more important confirming that they are the one and the same person as to the people who appear in the passport and the Indian Drivers Licence. We also arrange for the authentication with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), which is a necessary step in the process otherwise it won't be accepted by VFS / the Indian Consulate.

We're not involved in the entire process, but rather just focused on our main area of expertise is the preparation of the notary certificate/affidavit and the authentication with DFAT. Once those steps are completed, the remainder of the VFS application can be completed and submitted to VFS.


To obtain a quote on our notary public services for India, please visit https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/notary-fees/.

Get quote to notarise Indian documents

Acknowledgements

This blog is supported and maintained by . Phang Legal is a leading provider of notary public services in Sydney. With offices conveniently located in Parramatta, Phang Legal supports and services the Indian community across Sydney with readily available and easily accessible notary public services at highly competitive rates.

For more information regarding notary public services for documents going to India, view our notary publications at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/jurisdiction/india-notary/.

Frequently asked questions regarding our notary public services can also be found at https://www.notary-parramatta.com.au/faqs/.

For Hindi to English translation services by NAATI accredited translators, see https://hindi-naati-translation.blogspot.com.au/.

Ern Phang
Notary Public

Ern Phang is the solicitor director of Phang Legal and a notary public. Ern regularly writes about his experiences as a notary public, including the kinds of problems and solutions that his clients face when sending documents to India.

IMPORTANT: the information in this article is correct at the time of publication, however the law constantly changes. This means you should always refer to the most recent articles because we try to update this blog on a regular basis with the most current information.

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