By Ern Phang, Solicitor & Notary Public
Director of Phang Legal. Solicitor since 1998 and notary public since 2005.
Example: the situation
Ramesh's lawyer in India wants his affidavit apostilled and then attested by VFS, 'to be safe'. Ramesh wonders why a document would need both.
More stamps can feel safer, but they aren't always required. Let's discuss what the Apostille Convention means for you.
I have been asked to get my documents stamped with an apostille and then attested by VFS. Why?
Good question.
The reality is that when people don't know things - they guess. Sometimes it's an educated guess, and sometimes it's just a guess based on what they think is the right thing to do. If your lawyer in India is unfamiliar with the international conventions, such as the Apostille Convention, then it's possible that when they ask you to get your documents signed in Australia, they'll also want you to have your documents stamped with an apostille AND stamped by the Indian Consulate. But are both required?
You could say that a safe rule of thumb is that you can't have too many stamps. The more stamps you have, the more official your document will look, and the more likely someone looking at it will accept that it's sufficient for their purposes. This is practical advice, but it isn't great legal advice because there are actually international laws and conventions that govern how documents can be signed internationally and accepted in other countries.
In the case of documents signed in Australia but used in India, the Apostille Convention will allow documents to have been signed and notarised in Australia as well as stamped with an apostille from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to be accepted in India without any further stamps from other officials or authorities (ie, like VFS or the Indian Consulate). That's it.
If your lawyer in India has asked you to have your document also stamped by the Indian Consulate, then the chances are that they're not familiar with what's required by international law and convention or the people/offices that he's dealing with aren't familiar. For them, the safe bet is to have a stamp from the Indian Consulate. The downside for you is that it just means the process becomes more expensive and takes more time.
After you have your document stamped with an apostille, VFS (on behalf of the Indian Consulate) will ask you to sign a disclaimer/undertaking confirming that you're aware that you're not required by international law and conventions to have your document stamped by the Indian Consulate once it's been stamped with an apostille.
Every time we notarise documents for India, we recommend our clients to scan their document for their lawyer in India to check whether it would be sufficient. Do NOT ask whether an apostille is required and do NOT ask whether attestation by VFS/Indian Consulate is required - otherwise, they may just say 'yes' without really knowing why or committing you to a course of action that's going to incur more cost and take more time.
What next?
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Ramesh asked his lawyer whether the apostille alone would do, and his lawyer confirmed it would. Our notary public notarised the affidavit, we arranged the apostille, and Ramesh sent it to India without the extra VFS step.
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About the author
Ern Phang — Solicitor & Notary Public
This article was written by Ern Phang, a director of Phang Legal, a solicitor since 1998 and a notary public since 2005.
Ern has been a member of the Society of Notaries of NSW since 2005, a Fellow of the Australian and New Zealand College of Notaries since 2013, and a member of the Law Society of New South Wales since 1998.
Ern regularly writes about his experiences as a notary public and the practical issues his clients face when sending documents from Australia to India and other countries all over the world.
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